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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
It could well be one of the annuki, they were giants from space who came to earth to upgrade Homo errectus, They improved their DNA and came up with a new species Homo sapien.
I'm not saying for 100% but that would account for the lack of evolotion between the two species.


What scientific, historic and archeological evidence is there to back this up Agentscott?. I appreciate you said you're not 100% on this but where's 1% or 10% in terms of any valid support for this amazing, potentially life changing piece of information?.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and what can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far there is no evidence of the Annuki and it's all theory DB but a theory that seems to fit. It fits with the ancient cultures writings and could well explane a possibility of how we ended up the number one species.

The problem with science saying we evolved from apes is that there is huge gaps in the evolotion. Homo Erectus jumped to us and there are no inbetween skeletons unearthed so far. Thats a jump that doesn't add up in my book.

Watch the vid link DB and you will see the gaps.
I beleive science comes back by saying they just haven't found these between species skeletons of the half evolved Homo erectus but they will. (Does this mean science has no evedence too? but they expect they will????)

When they fill the gaps with the evidence then I will beleive it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, if you read/watch about bob lazar - he claims he was once put in a room to read documents and claims aliens made like sixty something changes to homosapians until the first current human creature was created - i think he was talking about the greys, anuki could just be another name

check out bob lazar - one of the most credible - hes never changed his story in over twenty something years Shocked
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could well be Cactus.
I keep hearing Lazzar being mentioned but have never read his stuff.

I did hear something about the DNA strand was reduced from 12 to 2 strings and thats why we dont use our brains full potentual.

In the theory though Homo Errectus may have been upgraded it certenly wasn't a full uprade to annuaki standards.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far there is no evidence of the Annuki and it's all theory DB but a theory that seems to fit

It's not a theory it's a hypothesis and if you look at what a hypothesis is then this hypothesis does not come anywhere near to fitting the facts.

It fits with the ancient cultures writings and could well explane a possibility of how we ended up the number one species.
What do ancient cultures writings say specifically about alien intervention in order to make us the number one species?.

The problem with science saying we evolved from apes is that there is huge gaps in the evolotion.
What gaps would they be?.

Homo Erectus jumped to us and there are no inbetween skeletons unearthed so far. Thats a jump that doesn't add up in my book.
Yes there are intermediate bones and skull fragments, it's basic grade school biology, why would you say there's an unexplainable jump to from homo erectus to Homo sapians.
Even Wiki gets it right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, search him on youtube - theres a few documentaries and the art bell show

- lazar was a physicist who was employed by the US Military to back-engineer a disc craft in 1988/89 at s4 area 51 - he never saw any aliens but was told about them and shown pictures etc but everything was compartmentalised as expected - he has never changed his story or added/took away anything in all that time

when you think about it - human beings are really a one of - extremely superior intelligence to any of the other billions of known creatures, quickly claimed dominion over the earth - a conscience, imagination etc etc etc...

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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check out bob lazar - one of the most credible - hes never changed his story in over twenty something years

Bob Lazar can be pulled apart easier than a candy floss Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney, go ahead Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certenly will Cactus.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
D B Sweeney, go ahead Rolling Eyes


You're the one making the claim that Bob Lazar back engineered UFOs at Area 51 therefore you are the one who has to provide the proof to back up your claim.
It is not the job of science or me to disprove claims such as yours (or any claims). The burden of proof always rests with those making the claims. In other words the claimant must furnish the claim with good quality evidence, reason and logic. If a scientist argues that all species evolve through a process of natural selection, then he / she needs to support that claim with positive evidence for that process. If a parapsychologist argues that the mind is separate from the brain and can survive bodily death, then he / she also needs to support that claim with positive evidence. If an individual claims that aliens are visiting Earth and have crashed their craft then adequate evidence and not just anecdotes from shadowy figures making unprovable claims themselves must be provided. It is unsound to argue that the absence of evidence alone, due to:

a failure of science disproving claims; and
shifting the burden of proof onto others, somehow supports the claim being made.
The burden of providing positive evidence lies with those making the claims.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and linking to YouTube videos is evidence of the flimsiest kind.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reason and logic


Lets suppose Aliens had mad changes/corrections to the human structure - then they left us to get on with it - the first humans lived as hunter gatherers for 1000s years, very slowly technology bcame more advanced, from the wheel to the Sailboat to the aircraft, with the crucifix in between - then from the 20th century in an extremely short space of time technology boomed - from space travel to weapons of mass destruction - in this hypothesis, which I believe is possible, once humans had the means to destroy everything on their planet - which if you look at it, we are capable of - we have only been in our current form for about 10,000 years and in that time have had more than 20,000 major wars, not to include endless small-medium conflicts.

Then the Aliens show up again - if they did, who would they communicate with - The Governments. If this was the case the idea would be that the aliens dont want to rule or control us, just help and educate and advance us. Maybe humans didnt progress naturally and that is why we are an insane species - we are greedy and we lust after everything and we cause harm to each other - rape, kill, torture, go mad on drink and drugs etc...wars etc...

The Governments care about one thing - power, and the fear of losing it.

There are loads of reasons why the Governments would keep this Top Secret - mainly mass hysteria, since the majority of the human population do believe in God etc...Millions and millions believe fanatically in religion - the world would be in total chaos.

If the world did know of Aliens they would look to them instead of the goverments, i know i would.

etc etc...

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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reason and logic, OK then Very Happy

First off...
Lets suppose
this is just a supposition ie 'an uncertain belief' and not a supposition supported in any way by any evolutionary biologists, archeology professionals or mainstream academia.

then they left us to get on with it
Why would they do that then?.

the first humans lived as hunter gatherers for 1000s years
They lived as hunter gatherers for well over a million years not 1000's.

then from the 20th century in an extremely short space of time technology boomed - from space travel to weapons of mass destruction
This is called 'exponential growth' and it's not due to aliens.
http://drjohnty.com/Exponential_Growth.html

we have only been in our current form for about 10,000 years
Homo Sapiens have been around 'in our current form' for around 200,000 years.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm

in that time have had more than 20,000 major wars,
Depends what you class as 'a major war'. I doubt that we've had 20,000 of them though.

Then the Aliens show up again
When did that happen...Roswell, Aurora, Rendlesham, Independence day?

if they did, who would they communicate with - The Governments. If this was the case the idea would be that the aliens dont want to rule or control us, just help and educate and advance us.
Pure speculation. If their purpose was to advance and educate us they've not done a very good job - we still have billions of people believing in non existent gods and killing each other in record numbers because of superstitious beliefs - not very advanced or educated on that score are we?.
What about cattle mutilation and the abduction of humans to harvest embryos - what's your take on that little scenario Cactus?.

Maybe humans didnt progress naturally and that is why we are an insane species -
Maybe the invention of Coca Cola retarded our development. Maybe
our inability to use logic and reason above blind faith has arrested our ability to live in harmony as a global community. Maybe Elvis is controlling our minds from the Moon?.
A maybe can be whatever you want it to be but it doesn't make it true.

we are greedy and we lust after everything and we cause harm to each other - rape, kill, torture, go mad on drink and drugs etc...wars etc...
The majority of the human race gets through the day without resorting to any of the above.

The Governments care about one thing - power, and the fear of losing it.
I'm sure that certain individuals and governments can be accused of that - mainly in Africa and the Middle East but on the whole Governments tend to have the well being of their people quite high on their agendas. Then there's that thing called Democracy where the people can get rid of Governments they don't think are doing a good job.

There are loads of reasons why the Governments would keep this Top Secret
I can agree with you on that but it depends if 'the governments' really have captured alien technology or have entered into some secret alliance with 'the aliens'. I've read all about OH 1 and the alleged underground base in Dulce New Mexico - it's a great story.

mainly mass hysteria, since the majority of the human population do believe in God etc...Millions and millions believe fanatically in religion - the world would be in total chaos.
It would certainly prompt a huge shift in religious beliefs but I certainly don't think it would plunge the world into anything close to chaos. People would still carry on going to work etc in order to feed their families and pay bills not run around in the street screaming.

If the world did know of Aliens they would look to them instead of the goverments, i know i would.
and on that bombshell we end the discussion and presentation of evidence.

Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first humans lived as hunter gatherers for 1000s years
They lived as hunter gatherers for well over a million years not 1000's.

wrong - in the exact current form


then from the 20th century in an extremely short space of time technology boomed - from space travel to weapons of mass destruction
This is called 'exponential growth' and it's not due to aliens.

i never said this was due to aliens - i said that is possibly why aliens would start to come back here again,


we have only been in our current form for about 10,000 years
Homo Sapiens have been around 'in our current form' for around 200,000 years.

no, similar and hairier - but not exactly as we are now - last 10000 years



in that time have had more than 20,000 major wars,
Depends what you class as 'a major war'. I doubt that we've had 20,000 of them though.

that was a small add on point to back up my theory - im not going to start arguing about the extent of a war to classify them


if they did, who would they communicate with - The Governments. If this was the case the idea would be that the aliens dont want to rule or control us, just help and educate and advance us.
Pure speculation. If their purpose was to advance and educate us they've not done a very good job - we still have billions of people believing in non existent gods and killing each other in record numbers because of superstitious beliefs - not very advanced or educated on that score are we?.

possibly they dont want to interfere too much, possibly they just didnt want us to destroy ourselves, possibly we are just an experiment of theirs, possibly those Gods you are talking come from Human ET interaction long long ago, possibly.


we are greedy and we lust after everything and we cause harm to each other - rape, kill, torture, go mad on drink and drugs etc...wars etc...
The majority of the human race gets through the day without resorting to any of the above.

that could be argued!?


I've read all about OH 1 and the alleged underground base in Dulce New Mexico - it's a great story.

and, eh, possibly, true, possibly


DB you make me sad Crying or Very sad
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrong - in the exact current form
Wrong in what way - what 'current form' are you referring to Cactus?

no, similar and hairier - but not exactly as we are now - last 10000 years
See above.

possibly they dont want to interfere too much, possibly they just didnt want us to destroy ourselves, possibly we are just an experiment of theirs, possibly those Gods you are talking come from Human ET interaction long long ago, possibly.
Possibly Very Happy

that could be argued!?
It probably could be but it's got jack to do with aliens.

and, eh, possibly, true, possibly
Yeah it possibly could be true, then again it could possibly be a total fabrication. I know where I'd bet my dollar.

DB you make me sad
Cheer up - it might never happen Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting view agentscott
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