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georgek



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Is Prayer Telepathy? Reply with quote

Before, I go any further, I am not preaching or criticising anyone's religion. Or am I saying that any religion is differnt.

If you think about it, the whole concept is madness if it were not for brainwashing. I am not saying that it is wrong, but look at it in your earthly fashion.

You go to either a church or a shrine, and pray to an unseen god and praise him.

Have you ever realsied that you are in fact using 'Mental Telepathy'?

You pray to your god to save the poor little children, but not the dear old men...why?

When things go right, you call it an 'Act of God', but when it goes the other way, you call it 'Nature'

Then pray for God and your country, whilst your enemy does the same.

Yet, when your god ignores you, that is okay...but when my god answers me, it is madness?

We hold our palm together when we pray, because it completes the circuit and our messages surge through the nimbus. You draw your saints with gold circles around their heads, but do not accept the aura.

So is it 'belief' that controls madness or is it 'logic'?

Does logic dictate the masses or the few?

Why do the masses do not accept that which has failed...and if the 'yardstick' is at fault, why use it to determine the results ?

Suppposing 'belief' is incorrect and logic cannot be accepted?

What then controls fate? Those who pray, or others who weep?

Have I lost you.....or am I still gaining?

Suppose that I am correct, and that telepathy is prayer?

Does that mean that you are not telepathic, but your god sees all....or that you are telepathic and talk to him?

Is it the degree of your ability that is at question, and not it's attribute and if so why do you judge mine?

Is it the blind that see light or the sighted who cannot see blackness?

Where then do we draw our case.....from that which has failed?

If your god hears you, then why can you not hear him?

Better still, why do you still pray?

If your failure is such that you see madness, then you must also see visions.

Visions by whome....through he that you pary or your own isolation?

As yet I would like to hear.

George
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damaralenoire



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey GEORGEK
You are right , You are not preaching
Your Lecturing

YES another LECTURE by GEORGEK.

You say you are not critising peoples religons but yet I still feel kind of insulted.

What are you hoping to achieve? You still trying to make a dig about the way people judge you and dont believe you?
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Aiden



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea Cool Cool
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ALEX LOCKWOOD



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: Is Prayer Telepathy? Reply with quote

I believe prayer is a kind of 'meditation'. Or maybe a 'dialogue' between you and a 'higher power'. 'Telepathy', I think is:

* a way of 'non-verbally transmitting' [thoughts, emotions, etc,] to other people.
* being able to 'pick up' what others are thinking and feeling. In other words, you are on their 'wavelength'. Often without being consciously aware of it.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prayer is a form of meditation I agree but it goes no further than your own brain.

That's the science.

If you can prove otherwise...knock yourself out Rolling Eyes

DB
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ALEX LOCKWOOD



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"knock yourself out"

DB, maybe you should follow your own advice for a change Exclamation
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALEX LOCKWOOD wrote:
"knock yourself out"

DB, maybe you should follow your own advice for a change Exclamation


If you can provide any proof that Prayer works or that it connects oneself to 'a higher power' (what higher power) other than personal experiences or other peoples stories then I'll be glad to knock myself out Alex.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its impossible to prove to you DB - you are too closed minded - I showed you the Doyle Brunson story and you simply said it was probably a medical anamoly that a man riddled with cancer on his deathbed suddenly is cancer free, which he believes is because of his wifes prayer sessions
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
Its impossible to prove to you DB - you are too closed minded - I showed you the Doyle Brunson story and you simply said it was probably a medical anamoly that a man riddled with cancer on his deathbed suddenly is cancer free, which he believes is because of his wifes prayer sessions


I explained that to you at the time Cactus. Perhaps it's yourself who is closed minded?. Do I have to go over my replies again and again because you don't understand or take in what my replies suggest?.

The human body has a remarkable ability to heal itself - even from Cancer. Miracles do happen but they have bugger all to do with God or any higher power.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was only saying that no matter what proof Alex would provide for you; it wouldn't be good enough.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
I was only saying that no matter what proof Alex would provide for you; it wouldn't be good enough.


If anyone, let alone Alex, provides adequate proof - I'll be humble and change my opinions no problemo Very Happy

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what would be proof for you?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
what would be proof for you?


In what context - prayer?. I guess if prayer healed an amputee that would be pretty conclusive.

DB
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ALEX LOCKWOOD



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If you can provide any proof that Prayer works or that it connects oneself to 'a higher power' (what higher power) other than personal experiences or other peoples stories then I'll be glad to knock myself out Alex. DB"[/quote]

I pray I don't 'walk into things' - I'm very prone to that - literally and metaphorically. So I usually offer up my prayers to the Angel/God That's Good At Finding Lost/Misplaced Things. Like my glasses. I just wish I could remember his name... . Anyone know who the Angel/God Who Helps You To Recall Things is Question
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't help you there Alex.
Seven angels sprung to mind but I might have my stories muddled. Laughing
I used to prey but havent for ages because I was never answered, never even anything so I decided whats the point and stoped.(i'm not religious, just beleive in something)
A classic time I would attempt a communication would be if I was in trouble or seeking advice.
I tried with god, angels, then aliens and got zero.(I didnb't belive aliens would be like a god but heard that there was a chance of a communication as they are telepathic. (that reminds me of something coming up I will mention later on)

On the other hand if prayings your thing and you beleive it works then go ahead, one day you might prove DB wrong. ..........maybe.

DB is a closed book and needs proff for every thing, should have been a military investigator.
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