The time now is Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:49 pm | Log in to check your private messages
View unanswered posts  Ghost forum archive
World of Ghosts - Paranormal Forums Forum IndexWorld of Ghosts - Paranormal Forums Forum Index
World of Ghosts Worldofghosts 24 hour chat room
                          Register


past lives
Post new topic   Reply to topic    World of Ghosts - Paranormal Forums Forum Index » Suggestions room
View previous topic | View next topic  
Author Message
loot



Joined: 25 Oct 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: past lives Reply with quote

is anybody in touch with their lives passed? i am not, although i am looking into regression therapy today.

what do you guys think about that stuff?
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
D B Sweeney



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Posts: 2842
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi loot, past lives? basically rubbish. Hypnotic regression? just you verbalising stuff you've stored in your memory - whether you know it or not.

DB

_________________
If you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
flossy
Moderator


Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 4897
Location: UK tyne/wear (geordie land)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive enough problems with this life, dont want to add another thank you Wink
but each to their own lol
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
loot



Joined: 25 Oct 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh i do believe in past lives, more than in orbs actually so far.

db you seem to be quite certain it's all rubbish but have you looked into it? how do you know it's not true? when it comes to matters like these i am not certain of anything.

flossy i know what you mean! still, it could be pretty fascinating, i have read so many books on it, it sometimes seems to help people with phobias...
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
D B Sweeney



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Posts: 2842
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loot wrote:
oh i do believe in past lives, more than in orbs actually so far.

db you seem to be quite certain it's all rubbish but have you looked into it? how do you know it's not true? when it comes to matters like these i am not certain of anything.

flossy i know what you mean! still, it could be pretty fascinating, i have read so many books on it, it sometimes seems to help people with phobias...


Hi loot. I've looked into past life regression a lot and have studied it along with many other aspects of the paranormal for over 30 years so I'm not exactly new to the subject.
When the most dramatic and seemingly authentic cases of regression have been investigated, evidence for the reality of reincarnation evaporates. Cases such as Bridey Murphy aka Virginia Tighe and Jane Evans (among many others) have been shown to fall apart evidentially when their accounts of past lives are examined and the facts that they give are checked.
Tighe and Evans (and the hundreds of others who report past life memories) believe these memories genuinely come from a past life - in just the same way that people who see a strange light at night come to believe passionately that they have seen a flying saucer, complete with all the details one would expect to see on such a craft.

Such belief can seem extremely convincing to others, even though the belief is wrong. Hypnosis is more often than not used to elicit past life memories. This technique produces totally unreliable reports, usually because hypnotised individuals will readily agree to leading questions, make up stories, fantasise and subsequently give accounts of non existent past lives in detail.
They may often truly believe their 'memories' are evidence of past lives but as I've mentioned, the strength of a belief is a very poor guide to its truth.

DB

http://www.skepdic.com/bridey.html

http://www.skepdic.com/reincarn.html

Sources:
Pseudoscience and the Paranormal: Terence Hines (2003) Prometheus Books
Scientific Paranormal Investigation: Benjamin Radford (2010) Rhombus Publishing

_________________
If you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
loot



Joined: 25 Oct 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks DB i just had a look at that skepdic site. makes a lot of sense and it is well written. ron l hubbard indeed! he'll give anything a bad name.

so what do you think then? i take it you do believe in ghosts, i will assume you do. so then the soul or a certain energy does not die. that seems like a lot of cosmic debris, how many trillions of people have ever existed?

do you know a book called Carol Bowman? She wrote a book about her experiences with her own kids having past life memories and then studied others. most interesting stuff.

you probably think i am stupid but i am going to find me a hypnotherapist that deals with this subject, and as long as he/she doesn't make suggestive comments when i am under i think it would be interesting. even if it's all nonsence it would even be worth it to see what kind of freaky shit my mind comes up with when i am not controlling it. but i would prefer to see some kind of other time, the historic aspect fascinates me, the idea of being a fly on the wall in another era Smile
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
D B Sweeney



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Posts: 2842
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I go any further I certainly don't think you're stupid Loot. I don't post or reply to anyone to demean their beliefs and opinions, I don't claim to be an expert but I do have many years experience (some technical), research and field investigation derived from a passionate interest in the paranormal. I've spent many long cold hours in haunted locations and read books, papers and articles from the perspectives of believers and sceptics that must by now number in the hundreds.
Do I believe in ghosts - yes I do. I believe that people are seeing things they believe are ghosts. I understand that for most of those people they are mistaken in their perception due to many factors. Do I believe that life or the soul carries on after the death of the physical body? I don't but I'm a sceptic so I'm open to changing my views if there is valid evidence endorsed by science and the scientific method.
By all means go get hypnotised Loot, it will certainly be an interesting experience. If you do achieve what you think is regression make sure you have someone with you to take lots of notes so that any details you talk about in any past life can be checked.
I've not heard of Carol Bowman but then again I only research and read about cases and examples that I'm challenged on.
Sceptics tend to have a bad name on paranormal and ghost forums - I like to think I give a balanced perspective because for many years I was firmly a believer (due to my own experiences and investigations) and used to challenge the sceptics.
I'm now a sceptic, not because I don't believe but because I have a need for evidence, logic and a valid reason to believe peoples claims.

DB

_________________
If you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
cuddly



Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Posts: 49

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Ive had 2 past life sessions for a purpose so far. I had few of my family members from the current life appearing in my previous lives as well. They call it soul group. It was wonderful as I was able to seek answers for few queries.
...
View user's profile Send private message
Back to top
thecactus



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 3183
Location: Northern Ireland

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might do this sometime, but as DB says I will record it and first find out about my last life; the one right before this one; who I was, when and where I was etc... and check it out, it would be interesting if I found some answers
_________________
It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out...
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
KiloCharlie



Joined: 27 Oct 2011
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is an old thread, but as a experienced hypnotist I would question the accuracy of anyone who has under gone hypnosis for the purpose of researching past lives.
Hypnosis is very difficult to achieve without some form of leading taking place. The smallest mistake in the choice of words can lead, or direct the mind when it is suggestible & the concept that someone has gone to someone with the intention of even questioning the existence of past lives, makes the whole result very dubious as no one does so without some thought about it taking place & that very thought leads the results.
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
thecactus



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 3183
Location: Northern Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KiloCharlie, thanks for the input - I assume you would feel the same about regressing 'alien abductions'?
_________________
It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out...
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
KiloCharlie



Joined: 27 Oct 2011
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
KiloCharlie, thanks for the input - I assume you would feel the same about regressing 'alien abductions'?


Yes, it's rather like a Freudian psychologist finding Freudian symbolism but never finding Jungian symbolism.
Hypnosis is a great tool, but it does have it's limitations.
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
D B Sweeney



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Posts: 2842
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypnosis...free range imagination and social compliance or is there something more to it?.

DB

_________________
If you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
KiloCharlie



Joined: 27 Oct 2011
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is more to it than that, sort of, but you are almost there. One of the hardest lessons to learn is that you have spent a lot of money learning about hypnosis, only to discover that it's simply what people think hypnosis is, that gives you the power over a lot of them.
A lot of what is done under hypnosis can be done without it. Just not as quickly or easily & sometimes not as effectively or as permanently.
Take a look at the way a stage hypnotist selects their subjects. First they want someone willing to take part, a volunteer..And yes it is easy to hypnotise without full knowing consent. In fact it's the best way to do it, as you meet less mental resistance. Next the stage hypnotist wants someone who is compliant to him. So he may do the, your hands are stuck exercise on everyone who wants to join him. Next he needs people who want an excuse to be an expansionist. Why else would they volunteer to hypnotised by him?
Now put the above into a scenario of someone visiting a past life regression practitioner & you will see why someone who believes in past lives visiting someone & often paying them to find out if they have past lives is a area of the expected being found.
...
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Back to top
thecactus



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 3183
Location: Northern Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KiloCharlie, one hypnotist trick I love is the snap induction - were the hypnotist goes to shake hands with a person and then interupts it and in the confusion tells him to sleep and down he goes Laughing It is very dramatic and powerful
_________________
It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out...
...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Back to top
Post new topic   Reply to topic    World of Ghosts - Paranormal Forums Forum Index » Suggestions room
Display posts from previous:   
 
 
All times are GMT
Jump to:  
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum