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Mummy3



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:44 am    Post subject: Help Needed! Reply with quote

I moved into a womens refuge in North Wales last Thursday morning. There are 4 other women here.
I am 27 I have 3 children aged 1, 4 and 5.
The woman in the next room to me is 21 with a 2 year old daughter.
There is also another 3 women aged 21, 23 and 34 who are here on their own.

On my first night here I fell asleep about 8.30pm I was woken up at 1am by a loud bang. The remote control for the television had gone from the bedside cabinet to under the window on the floor (a good 8ft) the door was locked there was nobody else in the room.

When I got up the next morning the woman in the room next to me asked me if I slept ok so I said apart from being woken up by the remote flying across the room it was fine. She looked at me quite strangely and proceeded to tell me what had been happening in the house in the 3 weeks that she had been here.

She kept hearing bangs in the middle of the night like things falling down but when she got up to look there was nothing there. She put it to one side in her head thinking she was hearing things. On Wednesday night the night before I arrived here she told me that it felt like someone had got into bed with her and she was awoken by the covers being moved back. She said she jumped up and turned the light on saw there was nobody there turned the light off again and had her phone thrown onto her chest. The phone was on her bedside cabinet.

My 1 year old has always had his own room and he won't sleep in a room with people in it. Here he will not sleep in the room on his own at all no matter how tired he is.

Yesterday things started to get worse there was only me and the girl in the room next to me in with the kids. About 3pm she said she was going to put her daughter down to sleep and try and get some sleep herself. I was in my room. She was woken 4 times by knocking on her door, i heard it to there was nobody there.

About 4.30pm we both smelt a burning smell it only lasted for about 30 seconds if that and then went again. It smelt like hair straighteners being left on carpet. We both went in our rooms and checked our hair straighteners and they were both unplugged and not hot.

About 6.30 my daughters were walking down the stairs when my 4 year old started to scream she had fallen down 2 steps she was adamant that she was pushed however after speaking to both of my daughters there was nobody behind her.

Took them up to bed about 7pm they got into bed and went to sleep about 8.30pm my 5 year old woke up screaming adamant that something had grabbed her leg, she was petrified I didn't manage to get her back to sleep until gone midnight.

None of the other women in the house have seen anything or heard anything at all. It seems to only be in these 2 rooms.

Any suggestions?
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mummy3,
This seems like avery interesting post.

I'm no expert but as far as I know paranormal occourences are quite common around children, perhaps they are closer to spirits somehow than us oldies. Hauntings can usually be associated with a paticular place too so that may explane why it's only going on in 2 rooms.
Always investigate your own goings on so you can be sure they are not explanable, don't jump to any hasty desicions either so sit back and think about it all for a while, if you hear a bang then bang back and see if you can reprouduce the same sound.

The best thing I think you could do is start of with a little homework, find out what the house used to be in it's former days, what people stayed in these rooms or if anything has happened there in the past, find out what on the land before being built on. Try and find out as much as you can by using news archives and talking to people.

Also this does sound like a good opertunity to get a camera set up and possibly a mic too, not only will you settle your curiosity but you may also be able to help prove the existence of ghosts.
Good luck Very Happy
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Mummy3



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the other 2 girls today got a priest in to bless the house....

However this didn't quite go down to well with me being Agnostic! I wouldn't let the priest bless my room, nor myself or the children which is what he wanted to do.

I am actually sat in my room at the moment and I keep getting cold shivers (it is hot in here the heating is on full 24 hours a day).

I have looked for other solutions especially with what my daughters have said (pushing down the stairs, grabbing of legs whilst in bed) and I do believe there is a high possibility that they have overheard what others have been saying and it is playing on their mind.

The bangs, the burning smells, things flying across the room though I can't explain no matter what I think of.

The house is a new build house owned by a local housing association I would say a max of 15 years old and it was purpose built to be used as a refuge.

The house is surrounded by I think 3 churches close by. I haven't been here long enough to go and investigate how far they actually are or if they have graveyards though. From research I was doing online of the area last night there is a castle 1.5 miles from here that is known for hauntings and back in 2008 a ghost ship was allegedly seen on the coast by locals and tourists.

The staff have said to the girl in the next room to me that they have had complaints about similar things before but they refused to talk to her about it so I think there for information is a no go. As is talking to the locals due to it being a refuge the location is obviously a secret so I wouldn't be able to discuss the building with anyone if you see what i mean.

Is there a reason why half way through every post i write that the font goes black and I cant see what i am writing? I tried to change the colour but i still cant see anything unless i hide it! It starts off as white but after about 4 or 5 lines it all goes totally black!

I'm tempted to set up my webcam tonight and see if it picks anything up i don't suppose you know of a programme that would record the stream do you?
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Mummy3



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other thing that I noticed yesterday was the church bells going which they don't usually do.

8.15pm they went off twice
9pm they went off 9 times
10.45pm they went off 3 times
Midnight they went off twice

I haven't heard them at all today nor had i heard them previously.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,
This does sound very odd and it sounds like you are already on the right path to finding out answers, I'm not religous myself so wouldn't wan't the preist blessing everything either.

Try and find out a bit about the castle and these churches if possible ansd a quick look at your towns history may be usefull.

To be honest this does sound like a ghost or polterguiest case to me and the phone and remote control being thrown seem to back that up, it's a pity you didn't get that on camera and a shame the staff won't give you any more.

Have you ever had any paranormal experiences in the past or is this all new to you?
oh I don't know any webcam programs atal because my laptop didn't come with one. I may well be looking to buy one in a few days as I also have a paranormal problem I wan't to solve.

Have you seen any thing else like floating lights or flashes that seem to just appear from nowhere? Thats what we have seen here on many occasions.

Not to sure about your text dissapearing?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mummy3,

Thanks for sharing your experiences. As a sceptic I'd suggest that your fears and encounters have rational explanations.

If you'd like me to offer my own reasons why I don't think you're experiencing anything supernatural then please post and I'll offer my reasons why you have nothing to fear or worry about.

DB
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Mummy3



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott
No this is definatly not the first time that I have experienced things like this. It happened a lot when I was younger and although there have been a few experiences in my twenties nothing as severe as what is happening now.

DB I'd like to hear your reasons go ahead!
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my first night here I fell asleep about 8.30pm I was woken up at 1am by a loud bang.
Being waken up by various noises are not proof of the supernatural. When we dream we can imagine many visual and auditory experiences that mat seem very real and may even seem like they exist outside our dream states and are happening in the 'real' non dream world. Very often we confuse the two and can't tell the difference between the noises/experiences of our dream states and those of our real waking states.

The remote control for the television had gone from the bedside cabinet to under the window on the floor (a good 8ft) the door was locked there was nobody else in the room.

Did you see it move?. There are any number of reasons why it may have moved.

She kept hearing bangs in the middle of the night like things falling down but when she got up to look there was nothing there. She put it to one side in her head thinking she was hearing things. On Wednesday night the night before I arrived here she told me that it felt like someone had got into bed with her and she was awoken by the covers being moved back. She said she jumped up and turned the light on saw there was nobody there turned the light off again and had her phone thrown onto her chest. The phone was on her bedside cabinet.
That's her subjective opinion - nothing more. You either choose to believe her or not but ask yourself - what evidence other that her word do I have?. If you live your life based on believing everything that people tell you then you're gonna have a pretty screwed up view of reality.

My 1 year old has always had his own room and he won't sleep in a room with people in it. Here he will not sleep in the room on his own at all no matter how tired he is.

It's a new, strange room for him. Children like familiarity and dislike change and different surroundings. I've had first hand experience of this with my children.

he was woken 4 times by knocking on her door, i heard it to there was nobody there.

About 4.30pm we both smelt a burning smell it only lasted for about 30 seconds if that and then went again. It smelt like hair straighteners being left on carpet. We both went in our rooms and checked our hair straighteners and they were both unplugged and not hot.

Sounds and smells carry over distance and they come and go and come and go back depending on the weather conditions.

About 6.30 my daughters were walking down the stairs when my 4 year old started to scream she had fallen down 2 steps she was adamant that she was pushed however after speaking to both of my daughters there was nobody behind her.
If she's picked up on your fears and anxieties then she may attribute a stumble to being a push. Kids take the lead from adults and often subconsciously want to please them - sometimes they'll do things that fulfill their mums or dads desires in order to please them and conform.

my 5 year old woke up screaming adamant that something had grabbed her leg, she was petrified I didn't manage to get her back to sleep until gone midnight.
Nightmare based on what she was picking up from you?.

Google: Hypnopompia and Hypnogogia.

None of the other women in the house have seen anything or heard anything at all.
Could this not suggest that these events are subjective and coming from you?.

DB
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there Mummy3,
Well how do you feel about the experience after considering DB's reasoning?
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mummy3, Whatever it is doesnt want you or your children there.

Would an obvious thing to do not be to go to a different refuge, or even one of the other rooms that hasnt got a bad entity in them that wants to harm you and your kids.

Set up cameras - get in a good paranormal team - maybe just tell it to f**ck off Laughing
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
Mummy3, Whatever it is doesnt want you or your children there.


That's the idea Cactus...cheer Mummy up with sheer guesswork Rolling Eyes

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its better than someone telling her to forget about it like you - next thing she'll be puking over priests and the head doing a 360 Shocked
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
its better than someone telling her to forget about it like you - next thing she'll be puking over priests and the head doing a 360 Shocked


I'm pointing out the rational not the irrational - the known and not the unknown - science not superstition.
How many ghosts have you seen interviewed on TV?. Isn't it odd that out of all these ghosts who are so desperate to come back and make themselves known we've not seen one of them on Richard & Judy or The One Show yet or...perish the thought...interviewed on YouTube Laughing Laughing Laughing

DB
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tokushi



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:23 am    Post subject: Might Be Helpful Information Reply with quote

Might Be Helpful Information

Ask you children if they saw a figure like a shdow or a dark cloud around the house if they did check on my post about shadow people under - "fire shadow people"
if you need help about how to deal with it contact me if I could help you I will,
but you should consider the option that it might not be a paranormal event and it is all in your mind caused by the stress those other women that lives ther cause you

yours Tokushi
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tokushi, said - Ask you children if they saw a figure like a shdow or a dark cloud around the house if they did check on my post about shadow people under - "fire shadow people

eh no dont do that - if you ask your child 'have you seen shadow people?' theyll be like 'eh, yeah, sure'

also this could scare them and give them nightmares, especially coming from a parent - it would plant ideas in their already developing fragile minds Sad

+ the stress of their parents breaking up, moving to a shelter etc... Sad
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