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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: |
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You not being a first hand witness dilutes the authenticity further- do you agree?.
Sure, I question the witnesses but I question the second, third and fourth hand accounts even more.
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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D B Sweeney, yes, chinese whispers and all
but these are all first hand or actual footage with the interpretation up to the observer
to me this was a real incident
there where no UFOs, then the tether snaps and hundreds of all different sizes, but basically the same shape materialise - moving intelligently - as if observing the tether
pulsating
black circle centre
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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the interpretation up to the observer
My point exactly Cactus - supports my post about perception and the unreliability of the human eyes/brain.
o me this was a real incident
I've no doubt that it was. If that's what you want to believe then you go ahead and believe it - doesn't mean it's the truth.
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thecactus
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: |
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I cant believe youre saying these were particles etc...
The distance these objects were away is fact, the size of the tether is fact - for me that makes the incident fact |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:05 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | I cant believe youre saying these were particles etc...
The distance these objects were away is fact, the size of the tether is fact - for me that makes the incident fact |
Have you taken on board anything i've posted on this Cactus?
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thecactus
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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You not being a first hand witness dilutes the authenticity further- do you agree?.
That doesnt relate to this case - as you can see with your own eyes |
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thecactus
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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No. But they're anecdotes - stories - eyewitness accounts that are just that. JUst because a number of people report strange things in the sky doesn't mean those strange things are UFO's, Aliens, Ghosts, Sky Dragons, Gods, Fire Monsters etc - it just means exactly what they say on the tin.
Thousands of years ago everyone believed that the Sun and Moon were gods with desires and the need to see sacrifices - did that make their beliefs true?.
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D B Sweeney
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:09 am Post subject: |
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yes i know there is lots of debris, but thats not what people usually describe - debris doesnt slow down, perform intelligent maneuvres, stop and sit for a time - eg travel at a controlled rate of 50mph then in one second change direction and speed off at 3000mph |
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: |
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D B Sweeney, I think your arguments of debris in this case are ridiculous, stupid, single-minded, ignorant, foolish and did I say stupid?
you are being an ostrich - sticking your head in the sand
THE UFO SHAPE OBJECTS CAN CLEARLY BE SEE TO MOVE - BEHIND - THE TETHER making them enormous and real |
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:20 am Post subject: |
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sometimes when looking at an incident DB you do have to look at some of the evidence to support it, not always just looking at the evidence against it, ignorantly and consistently |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Here's someone debunking the Tether footage
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewvideo.php?id=ce6QUJ0idYo&tid=191426
sometimes when looking at an incident DB you do have to look at some of the evidence to support it, not always just looking at the evidence against it, ignorantly and consistently
And I suppose you look at both sides of the coin Cactus?.
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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an interesting video - if this happens to be the case it was an amazing optical illusion, and funnily enough with the 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of hours of footage NASA have recorded in the last 50 years, this was the only time this illusion occurred, making debris look like UFOs
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | an interesting video - if this happens to be the case it was an amazing optical illusion, and funnily enough with the 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of hours of footage NASA have recorded in the last 50 years, this was the only time this illusion occurred, making debris look like UFOs
interesting |
Do you understand coincidence and chance Cactus?.
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