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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In real terms agentscott - if the Governments have in fact knowledge or even contact with aliens and have kept it secret all this time - there must be a serious reason for it - possibly the aliens told them to keep their existence/presence secret from the majority of the world's population for whatever reasons

this could be possible because it would be impossible for the ETs to keep their presence secret from the militaries/governments - with advances in radar technology etc...
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe.
I can't see what would make the military betray their own kind just because the aliens want it though.
Perhaps there was an element of blackmail involved somehow.

Comply or we destroy you!
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly

however if you were to really look into it there are probably endless reasons why the governments would keep this secret - at the same time this is all speculation - for me I would first like proof that we have been visited (I cant say the UFO I saw was definately alien) and I will continue to concentrate on that - -and I think things like NASA footage is the most credible type to investigate

I know for you it is different because of the sightings you witnessed - you can already begin to speculate about their origin/how many species/how advanced/who knows about them and why keep it secret etc...
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You two need to get a room Very Happy

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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think it's anything but someone's attempt at 5 minutes of fame and 5000 hits a day.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very funny DB.

Just because Cactus accepts the possibility of alien craft being real and you don't, you couldn't just resist that ey.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah DB sometimes people can discuss the possibilities without the confrontation - which is all that ever seems to happen with you - with you nothing is possible unless it comes from a top scientist; even though according to einsteins theory of relativity time travel is possible - so I guess you consider that possible?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I place my trust in science not youtube warriors. Mrx seems to agree with me - perhaps it's because we have more experience?.

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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually everyone seemed to agree on this one Rolling Eyes me and agentscott were only discussing possible scenarios

and I dont even have a youtube account; you are more active on that site than me Rolling Eyes
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course thats it, DB is highly experienced and we pale to his vaste knolage of the alternate explantions/pro debunkings.

We was discusing the paranormal there, speculation is some of the most interesting discussions in the paranormal and it's more fun making ideas and theorys that seem possible than it is trundeling through evidence and vids.

Come on DB whats your opinion of their agenda, if you had to have a go?
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Come on DB whats your opinion of their agenda, if you had to have a go?


good idea
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on DB whats your opinion of their agenda, if you had to have a go?

I'll tell you what I used to think.

We are being visited by a number of different species from different locations, times and dimensions. The sheer diversity of reported experiences seems to suggest these 'aliens' are coming from multiple sources. In many cases the interactions are so weird as to be incomprehensible to the human mind - I don't believe our technical knowledge or our mental abilities have evolved to the stage yet where we can process and fully understand our interactions with the more exotic aliens/interdimensional beings.
They are interested in us because, even given the size of the Universe, we're a rare planet with an unusually diverse range of flora and fauna. Some visit to observe and not interfere but some come to gather samples. The US possibly entered into an alliance with one species just after 1947 or in the early 1950's but this was an uneasy alliance (cattle mutilation and human abduction in exchange for drip fed technology) that went sour in the late 70's/early 80's - hence the Star Wars technology that was really an anti alien missile programme.
The whole involvement with Aliens is so many levels beyond black projects that it's wrapped in very complex disinformation policies and compartmentalised to the nth degree that a tiny handful of people really know the true picture - this does not include the President of the United States.
A culture of debunking and counter debunking is employed in order to engender a climate of confusion and to keep the masses in the dark about the true extent to which the various ET's and ED's have been a part of our existence for thousands of years.

That's what 30 years of reading and research led me to believe. I obviously don't believe that now.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I had have known the younger DB Very Happy
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
I wish I had have known the younger DB Very Happy


LOL Laughing Thanks Cactus. You could have come with me to the edge of area 51 looking for the US military flying captured saucers.

DB
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