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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...see below:

http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2008/01/extraordinary-c.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alien Visitation

Strictly speaking, alien visitation does not contradict other claims that are known to be true. It is theoretically possible that aliens exist and may hold advanced technology that enables them to travel across the galaxy. But the claim is extraordinary in that there is zero evidence alien visitation has actually occurred, despite at least sixty years of looking. In addition, there are rational explanations for many claims of alien visitation. There is no hard evidence of alien visitation, such as a crashed spacecraft with technology far advanced of our own.



Yes but this has no bearing on why I take the claims serious - they are coming from highly credible people who also claim there is a suppression of this knowledge by Security Services (for whatever reasons - you don't need to be Einstein to guess why) which in turn, hide all physical evidence, cover up and spread dissinformation to keep Skeptics such as yourself ignorant.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are coming from highly credible people who also claim there is a suppression of this knowledge by Security Services

Lot's of people claim to have seen fairies, dragons, angels, the Virgin Mary and the Devil over the years, some no doubt credible witnesses but that doesn't mean they actually saw what they think they saw or were all telling the truth..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evidence is there but it is just denyed.
People don't lie about these things, infact before you see something for yourself i beleive people don't even think about it. Wouldn't want to coz of the ridicule and people making it sound stupid saying ...."did you see the space aliens"ahaahah.

Sound familuar.
In the old times UFO's were there too, people called them differnt things then, fairys ect but there is always some alien phenomina mentioned no matter how far back you go.

Aliens are real.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for all the sightings there have been over the years (alien or not)
they are deff seeing something, not everyone can mis-judge what they see surely Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:
for all the sightings there have been over the years (alien or not)
they are deff seeing something, not everyone can mis-judge what they see surely Confused


There's a flipside to that coin Flossy Smile For all the sightings, landings, encounters, abductions, crashes, and contacts over the years there is not one single solitary piece of solid alien nuts n bolts technology that has stood up to scrutiny and proven that these vehicles are real.

Funny that isn't it Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evidence is ther just denyed, implants from abducties that cannot be identified.....all denyed.
Secretes held denying the people the truth witness accounts denyed and debunked crop circles with radiation and exploded noodes credible account lights seen...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
The evidence is ther just denyed, implants from abducties that cannot be identified.....all denyed.
Secretes held denying the people the truth witness accounts denyed and debunked crop circles with radiation and exploded noodes credible account lights seen...


You're conspiracy mad Agentscott Laughing 'all denied' by who?. All the 'alien implants' that I know have been tested have proven to be very earthly in origin.
Surely you don't believe crop circles have anything to do with aliens?.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
flossy wrote:
for all the sightings there have been over the years (alien or not)
they are deff seeing something, not everyone can mis-judge what they see surely Confused


There's a flipside to that coin Flossy Smile For all the sightings, landings, encounters, abductions, crashes, and contacts over the years there is not one single solitary piece of solid alien nuts n bolts technology that has stood up to scrutiny and proven that these vehicles are real.

Funny that isn't it Rolling Eyes


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yeah but i wasnt refering to crashes, abductions ect
i ment UFO's what are they seeing in the sky, deff unidentified Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, they're certainly unidentified Floss. The vast majority will be down to misidentification of any one of a number of natural and man made things - the mistake people make is jumping immediately to the conclusion that they're alien spacecraft or secret military aircraft performing acrobatics for the sake of the sky watchers.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to agree with you DB people are too quick to say its alien, i blame the movies Laughing
unless an alien ship lands in my back garden and asks me for directions then i might believe they are visiting us Laughing
untill then its wishfull thinking lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the ones that didn't miss identify and could clearly see something that shows a capability of things we canot acheive? Like rapid acceleration off the spot?...........brain prone to errors? or perhaps faulty eyes?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing with the physical evidence is that mainstream will say we got this from an abducty but it's not prof?
They have the prof just won't accept it and it makes perfect sence, it's a secret.

Even when they got evidence they will say that doesn't prove anything...even a vid of a guided tour of a ship would be called CGI and debunked, physical evidence too is said not to prove anything like the mentioned implants. What is evidence then..... just something more to deny and they will deny it all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i saw in the sky a few weeks ago moved pretty fast from a stand still, but i cant say for sure what it was, it doesnt mean its of alien origin
if someone else had seen it they might of said it was everybodys views are different Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sighting canot be debunked or explaned away so I know it's secret tech or aliens and more likley aliens.

When I discuss these matters with other real witnesses the picture becomes clear.
If you have not seen youself you may think all the miss identifications figures that get pushed around are more likley whilst trying for Earthly explanations but there are people who have seen firsthand unearthly stuff happen and it's undenyable.

It's quite sad really when you think of the wool being pulled over peoples eyes and they buy it without question.

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