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SpectralIllusion
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 Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject: Derek Acorah |
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When i first started watching Most Haunted i could not take it seriously and i found Derek to be highly amusing at times he made it worth its comical value alone. A great showman that he is he undoubtedly is a fake and has already been caught out but has continued to make money solo from sell out shows. I read he was being paid 20 thousand pounds a episode so it was a very lucrative series for him while the going was good.
It's sad that there are so many people around gullible enough to take such things at face value and that goes for mediums as well but where there is money to be made so a demand will be met.
The down side with all this is that fake pollutes genuine material to a point where you don't always know the difference and that is so frustrating and irritating for people like me who take the subject seriously despite understanding the need to make money.  |
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YB
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| I knew most haunted was fake after just a few episodes. We have spoken of it here often. |
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Pandora
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Derek Acorah |
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| SpectralIllusion wrote: | When i first started watching Most Haunted i could not take it seriously and i found Derek to be highly amusing at times he made it worth its comical value alone. A great showman that he is he undoubtedly is a fake and has already been caught out but has continued to make money solo from sell out shows. I read he was being paid 20 thousand pounds a episode so it was a very lucrative series for him while the going was good.
It's sad that there are so many people around gullible enough to take such things at face value and that goes for mediums as well but where there is money to be made so a demand will be met.
The down side with all this is that fake pollutes genuine material to a point where you don't always know the difference and that is so frustrating and irritating for people like me who take the subject seriously despite understanding the need to make money. |
I think your absolutely right, i kind of tried to believe derek at first when he could give such accurate details, although after a while i read a few articles about him and started to look at every little detail about what he said, how he reacted, just the little things. And when i saw how he apparently became possessed, i just couldn't take him seriously anymore. |
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julie20099
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It's hard to prove someone is a fake, but it is easy to prove that they are using cold-reading techniques. Psychics claim to 'tell' you things they can't possibly know, but what they really do is make a bunch of guesses and hope that some of them are correct. For TV shows, the wrong guesses are edited out but not always. There are plenty of videos on Youtube showing Derel Acprah and other psychics making such guesses and getting them wrong.
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D B Sweeney
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I agree with you completely on Julie that but I think in some cases it's easy to out a fake - you just ensure that they're tested under proper scientific conditions. That's why the JREF 1 million Dollar prize has never been claimed.
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Brittany
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Well people do need to make money but still... |
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D B Sweeney
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Welcome to AU Brittany 
People do need to earn a living and as long as they're doing it within the law and not giving people false hope that's fine by me.
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feebs
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| i think in the beginning of there career they were very good and went about things the right way but then it became a thing about ratings and that they got too big for there boots and needed to have something to hold there viewers from episode to episode..i liked it when it was raw and mistakes were made and the medium got things wrong as thats being human xx |
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thecactus
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| I never got into the ghost hunting shows at all - to me they were artificial and a bit stupid - ghosts don't appear 'on cue' IMO. The average person will be lucky to experience one or two ghostly happenings in their lifetime, but these dumb shows expect something everytime - like Johnny Rotten from the Sex Pistols said, ''How come in all the hundreds and hundreds of hours of footage of these shows, why have they still not found a ghost yet?... and I myself have experienced things in my life going bump in the night, and it wasn't all down to the acid'' |
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feebs
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| i suppose it is all how you see something as paranormal or ghostly and i agree ghosts do not come out on cue..lol...there is some things in these shows which do make me sit up and look but then i think to myself well if i was there then yes id believe but im not im watching a tv show and it makes me think about how easy it is to fake...i just hate all the hype for the ratings they do like the screaming and stuff..lol |
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thecactus
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| feebs wrote: | | i suppose it is all how you see something as paranormal or ghostly and i agree ghosts do not come out on cue..lol...there is some things in these shows which do make me sit up and look but then i think to myself well if i was there then yes id believe but im not im watching a tv show and it makes me think about how easy it is to fake...i just hate all the hype for the ratings they do like the screaming and stuff..lol |
Yes - the best show of this kind is Ghost Adventures, were they go the really most paranormally active locations and try to provoke a response from negative entities, but I even get bored of it.
I prefer shows like celebrity ghost stories, were real people tell their real experiences - it is all anecdotal, but they are evidence for me. |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| thecactus wrote: |
I prefer shows like celebrity ghost stories, were real people tell their real experiences - it is all anecdotal, but they are evidence for me. |
So you consider anecdotes to be evidence Cactus?.
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thecactus
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| D B Sweeney wrote: | | thecactus wrote: |
I prefer shows like celebrity ghost stories, were real people tell their real experiences - it is all anecdotal, but they are evidence for me. |
So you consider anecdotes to be evidence Cactus?.
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Some I do, definitely not all. |
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