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georgek



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YB wrote:
You have a point "to a point" lol. Aliens as I understand most people to mean is that they come in ships from other planets. God Created the earth, not just visited it is my response Very Happy


Well YB,

If you think about it your way, why don't the aliens communicate with us on an official basis?

We know that aliens exist, and that they travel here. Yet, they appear to be conspiring together as not to officially show themselves.

There appears to be some form of universal policing in force.

This opens the big question, as to what is going on?

There is some form of universal law, that says that they must not officially communicate.

Personally, I believe that they fit into the 'big plan'.

Again there is also no evidence to say that they travel materialistically from planet to planet. I am not one to use this philosophy, but from my experience, they are inter-dimensional.

The nuts and bolts UFO, I have not seen.

Spirituality must exist beyond our earthly existance, and I personally believe that advancement cannot be achieved in a physical body.

It is my assumption, that the aliens have achieved perfect peace, and one of the ingredients of this goal, is learning that to interfere with a less evolved species, is to interupt God's law. You cannot interfere with a less evolved race and that the only way that mankind learns, is by finding things out themselves. Everyone has a free will, and cannot be told right from wrong.

The same law also applies with the differnt races here, but I am told that to mention this, it is 'Nazism'
We spread our Western technology, to those too primative to control it. Hence wars break out.

This is why, we need to seek this perfect goal ourselves, and then we shall know our brothers.

I believe that the earth is our prison. Before we are able to leave, we have to know right from wrong. Rolling Eyes

Regards George
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YB
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I believe that the earth is our prison. Before we are able to leave, we have to know right from wrong."

I feel you got it "half right", not a prison but a School maybe?

I respect your belief's and we will all know for sure either when we pass on if not before. The second coming will be sooner than most people could imagine.
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"If you think about it your way, why don't the aliens communicate with us on an official basis? "


Who says they have not?

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"We know that aliens exist, and that they travel here. Yet, they appear to be conspiring together as not to officially show themselves. "


Thats speculation and is mostly a result of sci-fi IMO.

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"There appears to be some form of universal policing in force. "


I seriously would hope so, we don't have much success communicating with ants either, so we dont try.

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"This opens the big question, as to what is going on?"


Maybe we dont really need to know. The funny thing is humanity seems to think it matters. If there are visitors to this planet I am sure humans may think they owe us an explanation as to what they are doing. But when we go out into nature and tag animals (for there own good as reasoned by us) we just do it, we dont speak there language, we think we know how they feel but we are as much alien to them as they to us. We do our missions with precision and leave and we dont explain because we think we have the right to do this because we are the more advanced creature in the equation.

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"There is some form of universal law, that says that they must not officially communicate. "


100% speculation

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Personally, I believe that they fit into the 'big plan'.


You are probably right on that point. And as for wanting humanity to enter a golden age of peace and understanding no one will fault you there I'm sure. But humanity is not perfect, and can not be perfect. They are only perfect in the face of danger. The famous Reagan speeches about how if this world were faced with a greater outside force that all our differences would quickly vanish comes to mind. Our nature is what it is, we know how differently technologically advanced races can seem and history shows us how we reacted to these types of contacts. I would imagine that if there has been any form of official contact between world govts and a faction of these "aliens" that it is a mutual understanding that there be no out right disclosure until the society proves it is ready for the truth.

I personally dont think we are.
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georgek



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YB wrote:
"I believe that the earth is our prison. Before we are able to leave, we have to know right from wrong."

I feel you got it "half right", not a prison but a School maybe?

I respect your belief's and we will all know for sure either when we pass on if not before. The second coming will be sooner than most people could imagine.


Yes, you are correct when you say "School" as opposed to "Prison"...my mistake.

I have had more more conflicts with religion, than the neighbours cat and my boot. If it was not for inheriting seven virgins on the second coming, I would not putting up my Christmas Tree.

When asked about Grandad's grave being opened on the second coming, mom said that we cremated him. Crying or Very sad

I didn't know that it was the flower pot on his grave mom was watering. Always thought she was providing him with nutrition to strengthen his revival.(Hmmm...I never knew much anyway Shocked )

George
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georgek



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello mrx,

Have aliens communicated with us?

Personally I say not in a way, to describe them as being announced officially.

"We know that aliens exist, and that they travel here. Yet, they appear to be conspiring together as not to officially show themselves.

What I mean by 'conspire', is that there are hundreds of UFO sightings all over the world. As some say from differnt worlds. Their action is common. Literally, they do not declare themselves openly. They have never held an interview on TV. Announced themselves on radio, or posed for photographs for the media.

Out of all the UFO sightings, there has not been one incident, where they have openly declared themselves officially alien. (well...one did...but they crucified him. He did say he was not off this world)

"There appears to be some form of universal policing in force. "
Communicating with ants? Yet we interact. There is a differnce between not being ABLE to communicate with ants, and not WANTING to. So I have to disagree with you there mrx.....


mrx3010 says:-
Maybe we dont really need to know. The funny thing is humanity seems to think it matters. If there are visitors to this planet I am sure humans may think they owe us an explanation as to what they are doing. But when we go out into nature and tag animals (for there own good as reasoned by us) we just do it, we dont speak there language, we think we know how they feel but we are as much alien to them as they to us. We do our missions with precision and leave and we dont explain because we think we have the right to do this because we are the more advanced creature in the equation

Likewise with aliens....they do not owe us an explanation, but if we take animals, we treat them with respect. We try and communicate with the animal.

Perhaps we are both right. We then owe it ourselves, to look beyond our comprehension? Mankind was made to seek. To diffuse this innovation, is to deny ourselves the God bearing right to know what lies beyond.
If we are not evolved to have know, then I stand correct.
Hence the reason why they never declare themselves.

They can surely try...but they know it is wrong.

there be no out right disclosure until the society proves it is ready for the truth.

Yes...but a lot of people have understood this reason.
There is one word to describe it:- "Spirituality".

Regards George
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the end I will say this you have good points and have spoken well in this matter :)
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Nats88



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I personally think that Aliens do exist in the universe.
For starters my main hobby is Astronomy and there are billions of stars in the universe, it is believed 100 million are in our galaxy alone! Imagine the possibility of one or even more life hosting planets that could sustain life around any one of these stars (it could happen as we are stood here today).
Whilst researching for a discussion on this very topic, I have found there are cave paintings dating back to 32,000 years ago that clearly depict UFO's, the ancient Egyptians have drawn Aliens and spoken of them in their texts. Also the Ancient Mayans believed they were from the Pleiades (a star cluster seen during the winter months by those in Northern hemisphere).
This showed me personally that UFO and Alien phenomena is not a recent idea, that in fact early humans that were living in caves were quite possibly seeing UFOs.
Also some believe ancient monuments like Stonehenge, The Great pyramids in Egypt, Mayan temples and the standing stones on Easter Island was built by or with the help of Alien beings, the truth is we proberly won’t ever know why they were built (Ideas include astronomical clocks or sacrificial sites)and to some Aliens are the only plausible outcome for this, although newly found tools have been dug from around the bases of the heads on Easter Island seemingly proving that humans back then were capable of doing such feats.
There have been many UFO abductions and witnesses documented over the last 200 years or so, interestingly numbers soared when the first close encounters film was released in the 70's and the follow on ET in the 80's.
As for recent UFO sightings, there have been multiple sightings of orange orbs flying in formation around the world. Some can be explained as aircraft or the popular Chinese lanterns that glow orange when they are high up in the sky. Again not all cases can be explained. Also some freak weather conditions can give the illusion that there are UFO's in the sky.
Do I believe Aliens have walked on Earth??? That I am not sure of, many people have produced striking resemblances in statements after so called contact with Aliens.
My final thought is to the idea that humans could be in fact alien or descended from aliens in the past. This is possible!! Not in the idea that we were born from aliens but when Earth was developing there was a massive amount of asteroid impacts that have sculptured the inner planets. Research has shown that the same building blocks that have created humans and most other living organisms on Earth, has been found on either asteroid or comets (can't think which) that have come from deep outer space and fallen to Earth, so with that in mind there has to be another species out there and I say they are very clever as they haven't contacted us yet and show no interest to do so. Who would these days????

Take care everyone

Nats x
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twinks



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

google "aliens underwater" or something similar and have fun reading
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