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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: FBI releases previously secret files.http://www.foxnews.com/ Reply with quote

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/04/05/fbi-unveils-vault-including-unseen-11-records/

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
and?


Nothing. I just posted it for the conspiracy/ufo fans on here.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read it - the 3 foot beings the airforce officer saw and the ufo craft - were they saying they were alien bodies or dummies, it didnt seem to specify
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's good that these organisations are realasing stuff thesedays.
The only problem is that I suspect they will only be showing us what they want us to see and keeping the rest secret.(it's always downplayed stuff too) When the M*D realesed files it was all just reports of UFO's and most stuff looked expanable or plane sillly. Here the aliens were in flight suits suggesting that they may have been miss identified.
We all want a proper disclosure/breifing on what they really know and everything they have learnt so far so just throwing public reports back out is a joke.
This type of thing is just an attempt at keeping the people happy, making infomation hunters beleive they have seen all the files.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres some more..Could this be some more evidence denyed?
http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/game-changing-fbi-memo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, I think if the Governments havent disclosed by now, they probably never will.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with you there Cactus, loads of people are talking of this dissclossure building up gradually through the mainstream media but I don't think they are building up to anything other than more secret keeping.
Why would they change the system after over 50 years of a great sucsess. They don't need to tell us.
There is also anti disclosure people and these are the pains in the neck, they will still say the disclossure is lies and not the real truth, I think these are the proagander spreading types who wont be happy atal.

Another idea is that we have already had it and it's still in the proccess what with all these articles in the papers and declassified documents.

One last thought..If we do get a disclosure it won't be an organisation of some kind going live on T.V, more likley it will be the books being left open for a short time and they will see if there are any takers. Nice way of testing the water, no takers, close the book.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll never believe it Agentscott. As long as the masses have their beer, food, internet & TV they don't give a damn about conspiracy theories on UFO's or Government cover up's because the evidence is too weak and always will be because basically there's nothing really to disclose.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as Bob Lazar said:



Art Bell: Would you say there should be full disclosure or is this something better kept from the American or the world, public?

Bob Lazar: Well it's not better kept from the American people because we are SUPPOSED to be the government. We hire these guys, elect them to their positions to take care of business. So nothing is supposed to be kept from us; However, you know there are other countries, we do have an awful lot of people in the world that hate us because we're alive, and you know, if you're concerned about weapons & the proliferation of things of that sort, you do need to keep certain things secret from the rest of the world; however, it's one of the things that I had said initially, go ahead & keep all that stuff secret, but just admit.. hey by the way, a long time ago we ran into some of these things, this technology is real. There apparently is actual intelligent extraterrestrial life somewhere else, and.. we have a few artifacts, and go ahead & release some stuff to the public, look it's here, you know? Here's a hinge made on another world, just.. something generic, and keep all the other stuff secret. But then I could also see the flipside of that, that's gonna wet everybody's appetite and there's gonna be a fear over disclosing the rest of the information, and if the government has been keeping that secret for so long, what else have they been keeping secret? I don't see the government coming clean with any of this stuff, I mean they're, they're up to all kinds of no good, so..

Art Bell: Do you believe there's a government behind the government, sort of pulling the strings as it were?

Lazar: I don't know about that, I think ours is pretty screwed up as it is so I don't think it needs anybody else pulling any strings.

Art Bell: Yeah, you're right about that.. But surely there is some method for keeping this gigantic secret, and not all politicians & perhaps not all presidents are told about the existence of that, you think?

Lazar: Yeah, I think very few people know, and one of the things they told me, which was one of my first comments there when I finally knew what I was working on, 'How do you guys keep this stuff secret?' And what they told me was, 'This is the easiest thing in the world to keep secret.. because it's so unbelievable.' And you know what? When you really think about it, they're right!

Art Bell: And you're pretty much right, everything just gets dismissed or erased.."




I think this kind of sums it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does the job Cactus.

They probobly wont beleive a disclosure at the moment. It's only when all the people get a good 100% sighting themselves then they will begin to ask questions, "what did I see?" Especialy if it's a massive multiple witness sighting.
Perhaps this is why there are more sightings thesedays... certen types of aliens may well be trying to disclose themselves, maybe they are not happy with the actions of other aliens who have meet secretly with our powers, they want more people to see them because perhaps they want to come down soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art Bell & Bob Lazar - the Abbot & Costello of UFO conspiracy theories Very Happy

They would say that wouldn't they. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO Bob Lazar and Art Bell always come across as very level headed - Bob has never changed his story an inch since it come out over 20 years ago and I would say Art Bell was always on the fence (although sometimes he would appear to go along with a crazy guests story but that was just to keep him talking - he would always give him enough rope to hang himself)
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