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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: discovery shuttle captures ufo footage Reply with quote

this is intersting, footage from the discovery shuttle, has some scietists stumped
what do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMf3towVVI&feature=related
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have posted this here before flossy Very Happy

I found it interesting - the object appears to be intelligently controlled.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an old piece of footage Floss. It's been convincingly explained many times on the net and it's not ET related.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
I have posted this here before flossy Very Happy

I found it interesting - the object appears to be intelligently controlled.


i thought someone did but wasnt sure Laughing
it is interesting and the object does seem controlled, what made it interesting for me is the scientists could'nt even explain what it was

DB what was the explanation for it?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:

DB what was the explanation for it?[/color]


STS-48 incident
▪ Video taken during mission STS-48 of Space Shuttle Discovery while in orbit on September 15, 1991 shows a flash of light and several objects that appear to be flying in an artificial or controlled fashion.
▪ NASA explained the objects as ice particles reacting to engine jets. James Oberg claimed that the flash was from a thruster firing.[1] Philip C. Plait discussed the issue in his book Bad Astronomy, agreeing with NASA.[2]
▪ Dr. Jack Kasher analyzed the movement of the objects in 1996, and found five arguments that the footage could not depict ice particles.[3] However, Lan Fleming found discrepancies in the timestamps in a later version of the video first released by the NASA FOIA office in 1999, leaving some conclusions indeterminate.[4] James Oberg presented a paper at Purdue University that disputed Kasher's five arguments and showed how illumination conditions and thruster firings were capable of producing the sequences in question.[5] He has also posted data and telemetry records that support a prosaic explanation.[6]
▪ Lan Fleming analyzed the movements of the objects and the flash of light that preceded the abrupt change in the course of the objects, and concluded that the exhaust plume from one of the shuttle's reaction control system rockets could not have produced the flash of light.[7][8][9][10]
▪ Mark J. Carlotto came to the conclusion that relatively brief firings of shuttle thruster rockets acting on nearby debris particles could not explain the prolonged periods of acceleration indicated by the curved paths of the unidentified objects.[11][12] However, prolonged periods of smooth acceleration can be explained by atmospheric drag on microscopic ice particles, even though the atmosphere is extremely tenuous at the altitude of the orbiting shuttle.[13] Carlotto also noted that at the end of the event, the shuttle's camera panned down, showing a number of objects moving below the shuttle, and one of the objects appeared to consist of three lobes arranged in a triangular pattern.[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_outer_space#1991

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok but in that link it also said this
Video broadcast during mission STS-102 of Space Shuttle Discovery while in orbit allegedly recorded on March 19, 2001 by Jeff Challender shows a flash of light and three objects which performed movements which included starting, stopping, accelerating, and making sudden angled turns.[18][19][20]
Lan Fleming compared the timing of the flash of light and a course change of one of the objects to the timing of shuttle thruster firings and concluded that the flash and the movement of the object could not have been caused by thruster firings.
and one the scientists in the video aslo said that the objects were too far away to be affected by the thrusters Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we look at the general consensus of those involved in the space programme we see that alien spacecraft are probably not whizzing about around the ISS and the Shuttle or being targetted by any Star Wars weaponry IMO.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe not Star Wars weaponry but when you see footage like this and it has the scientists baffled it makes you think whether there are spacecraft whizzing about up there
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:
maybe not Star Wars weaponry but when you see footage like this and it has the scientists baffled it makes you think whether there are spacecraft whizzing about up there

It has some scientists unable to come to a valid conclusion. The shuttle crew, the ground support staff and the vast majority of the scientists qualified to comment don't think there are aliens whizzing about up there.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
If we look at the general consensus of those involved in the space programme we see that alien spacecraft are probably not whizzing about around the ISS and the Shuttle or being targetted by any Star Wars weaponry IMO.

DB


Probably not but I am still not convinced that this is ice particles reacting to the thrust.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me neither cactus Wink
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