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msred121
Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 1 Location: birmingham uk
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: denbigh asylum north wales |
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do you think it should be demolished |
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YB Moderator
Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 2167 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the forums msr. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Welcome to the forum MsRed!
Can you give us a heads up on Denbigh Asylum?
Some of us are from the states. |
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Solstice Moon
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Horsham, W Sussex
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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No, I don't.
I do, however, feel that most of "Most Haunted" should be demolished. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Solstice Moon wrote: | No, I don't.
I do, however, feel that most of "Most Haunted" should be demolished. |
Moon can you give us a bit on history of this place?
Thanks.
I never could get into "Most Haunted", it did make me laugh quite a few times though.
Some of the stuff that guy would come up with! |
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Solstice Moon
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Horsham, W Sussex
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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it's not somewhere I know that well to be honest. Well, ok, before MH I'd never heard of the place.
As for MH, not watched it in ages, but it really annoyed me that whenever anything haappened they'd all start screaming. I mean, c'mon, that's no way to run an investigation! |
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damaralenoire
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 334 Location: South Wales UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Here is a heads up on Denbigh Asylum - It is / soon to to be WAS a stuning place, very grand for its intentions, BUT today we are living in a world run but what i call a compensation society and dictated by Health and Safety It would be in the best interests for all that they demolish the place but it is a great shame that they are. we just have to let go of places like this, and remember them for what they were. The place is a death trap and riddle with asbestos. but before they do demolish, there were talks of the demolishers actually arranging for a proper exoricism as the place was a hotbed for paranormal activity.
The North Wales Lunatic Asylum was the first psychiatric institution built in Wales; construction began in 1844 and completed in 1848 in the town of Denbigh. The U-shaped Tudorbethain style hospital was built due to the spreading word of mistreatment of Welsh people in English asylums; The North Wales Hospital would be a haven for welsh speaking residents to seek treatment without prejudice or a language barrier.
Renovations and extensions were made at the hospital from 1867 until 1956, when the hospital reached its maximum capacity at 1,500 patients living inside her walls and 1,000 staff at hand. Physical treatments such as Cardiazol, malarial treatment, insulin shock treatment, and sulphur based drugs were used and developed in the 1920s and 1930s, and 1941-1942 saw the advent of electro convulsive therapy (ECT) and prefrontal leucotomy (lobotomy) treatments.
In 1960, Enoch Powell visited the North Wales Hospital, and later announced the "Hospital Plan" for England and Wales, which proposed that psychiatric care facilities be attached to general hospitals and favored community care over institutional settings. This was the beginning of the end for the North Wales Hospital and others like it; in 1987 a ten year strategy to close the hospital was formed. The North Wales Hospital was closed in sections from 1991 to 2002; most notable was the closure of the main hospital building in 1995.
On July 12, 2004, The Prince of Wales visited the hospital and administered a speech detailing his Phoenix Trust, a historic building trust that prevented the structure from being demolished. The hospital is currently slated to be converted into private homes. Asbestos abatement has started October 2008.
A book called Care and Treatment of the Mentally Ill in North Wales, 1800-2000, by Pamela Michael (2003, ISBN 0-7083-1740-5) describes the rise and fall of the North Wales Hospital from its origins in 1848 to its closure in 1995. The author uses patient case notes to discuss life in an asylum, to look at changing diagnostic and treatment patterns, and to explore the ways in which ordinary people understood and experienced mental illness. Through an examination of the ways in which disruptive behavior has been contained, she also considers the social and cultural meanings of mental illness in Wales over the past two hundred years.
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YB Moderator
Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 2167 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Another "antique" going to waste.. To say "it's a shame" is an understatement. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the "heads up" on the place Damara!
I do hope the plans to convert the building into private homes is completed.
At least it will preserve the history somewhat. |
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sekar555
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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The historic building of North Wales Hospital at Denbigh has a long and illustrious past. Built in 1846 the building is now owned by Denbigh Council and undergong extensive refurbishment following its’ closure announcement in 1987.
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Project;Paranormal
Joined: 24 Aug 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Sedbergh, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Hi all, jsut wondered if any had approached the Denbigh Council regarding an investigation?? |
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flossy Moderator
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 4922 Location: UK tyne/wear (geordie land)
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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not that im aware of, are you planning too? |
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Project;Paranormal
Joined: 24 Aug 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Sedbergh, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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flossy wrote: | not that im aware of, are you planning too? |
Hi there, I certainly think it would be worth it, only major problem is the distance as my paranormal group is based in cumbria, north of England, so that may be a task but i dont see why it hasnt been done, seems a potential.
I noticed further up the thread someone mentioned that it was been renovated/Converted, do you know its current status, i.e has the construction started?
Regards, |
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flossy Moderator
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 4922 Location: UK tyne/wear (geordie land)
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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i really dont know, sorry |
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carlos2010
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 288
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Project;Paranormal wrote: | only major problem is the distance as my paranormal group is based in cumbria, north of England,
Regards, |
Thats not a major problem, few hours in a car/van
As for asking the council, you may aswell platt fog.
Ive recognised some of the above pictures from an urbex forum.
Most of these places rarely have security and fences with big holes. |
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