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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: UFO filmed taking off in Florida |
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This is currently attracting some debate on various forums. The poster claims this is footage of a UFO taking off filmed through some trees. He states that the object must have disabled his ability to record audio but didn't affect the memory card. He also says the object shot up into the air very quickly but he didn't capture this on film?.
What do our believers, fence sitters and sceptics think?.
http://youtu.be/zCEm636-0bI
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Fake IMO. His youtube name is suspicious too - ''Joinourbandofbelief'' |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I have read many reports of simular sightings but in the sky firey balls with structure within.
I think that there is a chance it's real but likley just CGI based on the reality read straight out of forums and report sites.
If this isn't real, there are certenly real ones out there yet to grace our our eyes.
One of the biggest debunkers I ever meet discribes a very simular UFO in his sighting but went on to say likley it was not ET. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: |
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I think it's a reflection in water - of some spotlights moving slowly along the opposite bank of the lake. The shimmering effect is the result of the small ripples on the water's surface.
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Could be but equally also could be more proff of ET. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Agentscott wrote: | Could be but equally also could be more proff of ET. |
But which is it more likely to be?.
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Just because there are fakes out there, doesn't mean this is, it's at least a known sighting style and untill we know more about it there is no way of telling for sure.
If I had been able to film my sightings I would have put them up on you tube and mine are 100 percent unexplanable and likley ET's. Only one other explanation and thats tech.
Get a laser and pair of binoculars and get out there DB and wait, youl get a sighting with time.
I'm not talking shining at pilots like some thermos taking planespotters might think but using it wisley and in the case of a 100 percent undenyable ET sighting then use the thing to communicate.
Last time I mentioned a laser the mentioned debunker above tried to make me out to be an easilly exited fool blinding pilots. grrrrr
Pity that site was infiltated. |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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opps, just thinking of that annoys me.
Im sure not all planespotters are that bad. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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it's at least a known sighting style
What style is that?
mine are 100 percent unexplanable and likley ET's
In your opinion Scott.
Get a laser and pair of binoculars and get out there DB and wait, youl get a sighting with time.
So you're saying that if I shine a laser at some object that's probably in low Earth orbit, I may get some form of reciprocal communication back?.
using it wisley and in the case of a 100 percent undenyable ET sighting then use the thing to communicate.
How can you have a 100% undeniable sighting of an alien spacecraft when it's just your subjective interpretation of a light in the sky?.
Last time I mentioned a laser the mentioned debunker above tried to make me out to be an easilly exited fool blinding pilots.
I'm sure you're very careful about pointing your laser at commercial and civilian aircraft Scott and there would be no harm done pointing it at satellites but how would you be able to tell between a high flying passenger jet, a satellite/the ISS and a genuine alien spaceship?.
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:08 am Post subject: |
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The red tape's back.
In the UFO community,(that I have been exiled from due to infiltration)
you come to learn the differnt types of sightings available. I have read many, many reports of peoples sightings.
Firey sightings are actually quite common, no way as much as say an OBL but still common. Flames are sometimes discribed. From what ive seen with blue swirling around UFO's I can visulise red and that may look like flames to the veiwer.
No, reggarding the laser, if you see a UFO and only then shine near and around them to communicate(not to blind). You could even try telepathicly urging them to come closer but I prefer a laser.
Ive read cases where the veiwer has got a reaction and a freind of mine got a huge reaction during her sighting.
Your ignorance shows DB, I can tell you never seen anything other than a distant meaningless light, the sort of thing I see each week and don't mention.
Reggarding the laser again DB shine near not at whatever and planes are always obvious.Very. A typical debunk reaction would be jumping on the aircraft saftey lecture to try to humiliate. Lasers are for night sky use and stargazing....live with it.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I can't imagine how you can be so sure about this when you didn't see it yourself? |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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In the UFO community,(that I have been exiled from due to infiltration)
Smacks of early stage persecution complex, try to put things in perspective. There is no UFO community.
You've not been exiled from anywhere, you've been dropped from a website or two. Plus you've been invited by me n the Cacti to AU but you refuse because you think it's full of debunkers (which is just not the case).
you come to learn the differnt types of sightings available
Yeah I know all about them Scott having studied the subject since 1973
Firey sightings are actually quite common
They're also called meteors and space junk burning up on re-entry. Why would a super advanced civilisation use combustion technology to power their craft?.
Ive read cases where the veiwer has got a reaction and a freind of mine got a huge reaction during her sighting.
What was the reaction?.
Your ignorance shows DB
Oooo now then, now then...let's keep it civil
By saying my ignorance shows, you really mean that I've not been convinced by lights in the sky to the same degree that you have - so, in your eyes, that makes me 'ignorant'. I'd have a think about that if I were you Scott.
A typical debunk reaction would be jumping on the aircraft saftey lecture to try to humiliate. Lasers are for night sky use and stargazing....live with it.
You've once again misunderstood my post. I suggest you re-read it and quote me the bit where I debunked anything to do with lasers.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I can't imagine how you can be so sure about this when you didn't see it yourself?
I'm not sure about anything when I'm hearing it second hand Scott and I'm not even sure when I see something with my own eyes - what gives you the impression I'm so sure. Aren't you the sure one with 100% undeniable sightings?.
Do you prefer the Olive text - I do.
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Agentscott, how can a ball of fire as you have described be an alien spacecraft?
What I don't understand is how come absolutely nobody I know has seen a UFO - I really am starting to believe that when it comes to UFOs people see what they want to see. |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Cactus, many people haven't seen a UFO but youcant dismiss the many that have because some have not.
Ive not seen a stealth fighter but they are real..so i'm told.
Don't missunderstand me Cactus im saying weather you or anyone else beleives it or not there are these phenomena up there in our skys, what i'm saying is it must be a secret technology or ET. I see inteligence in the objects I see they move with purpose they fly with great speed even our fastest jets couldn't touch.
they display even sometimes.
I can't attempt to explane how ET ship work but some UFO's are repotred to be firey. Perhaps as I was getting at earlier it's not fire atal perhaps some kind of reaction or something else entirely.
If you close up to the phenomina you will be doing yourself out of the truth and the veil will be in place forever. Like ghosts are real so is ET or secret tech.
Also note that I now have 5 sightings over 32 years but and thats alot of hours seeing nothing too.
Keep watching Cactus and perhaps if you are more optomistic your luck will change. Also though I think location is important and I see alot less reports from Ireland. |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:40 am Post subject: |
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That was a community to me and many else and there are many more.
You know nothing of the fine details and I was a member there a long time, I watched the place fall to debunker mods and the other was driven out.
Studying and reading is not first hand experience.
One explanation but meteorites don't hover as is reported sometimes.
This is my point exactly, I wish to discuss UFO's, not have to prove anything under interigation. This is why I think a beleivers only forum site is a good idea, I like to talk to people who accept without having to interigate and share sightings to learn more without dealing with non witnesses who think it's all crap. |
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