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thecactus



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Bob Lazar Reply with quote

The Bob Lazar Story

""I am exactly sure of what I saw. I know what mainstream science is like, I know where physics stands—I know all of that—and this is an extraterrestial craft, this technology is hundreds and hundreds of years in advance of us, and that's the end of that story." - Bob Lazar

This is a really fascinating story and the story self has as many supporters as it has debunkers.

In 1989, a man named Robert Scott Lazar contacted the Las Vegas television station (KLAS) and claimed that he had been working as a physicist on the government's most highly classified project, Galileo, which involves back engineering alien technology.

The research took place at a hidden base there, referred to as S4. S4 is located ca. 16 km south of the famous Area 51, by the Papoose lake.

He stated that the craft he was shown displayed technology that was hundreds of years in advance of us.

Since going out public and telling the story he had has his life threatened and he has been shot at.

The television journalist George Knapp was interested in the story and started searching for more information.

Here started the investigation problems. The S4 base is in a restricted area, it is impossible for anyone outside of the government to directly visit the place and confirm or deny Lazar's story.

Bob Lazar's background has been difficult to verify. His hospital birth records, college transcripts and employment records, including those of his employment with Los Alamos National Laboratories and through EG&G had been erased.

Lazar claimed to have worked at the Los Almos National Laboratories, but no record was of his employment there was found. Hovewer his name appear in an old telephone directory of Los Alamos scientists. An article in a July, 1982 edition of the Los Alamos Monitor, which shows a picture of Bob by a jet car and refers to his employment as a scientist with Los Alamos, is also hard to explain. There are also Los Alamos employees who told KLAS TV's George Knapp they remember Bob Lazar.

Bob Lazar worked between December 1988 and April 1989 in at the zone S-4. During this period, he would have had admission to very private information. He had seen documents and autopsy of aliens corpses. The main purpose of his work was to "reverse engineering" alien flying saucers. Lazar observed nine different kinds of saucers parked in the hanger.

Bob Lazar would have worked on a flying saucer with a diameter of
9-12 m. It had a console and the seats were small, almost made as for children. He was told that the aliens came from from the fourth planet of the binary stellar system Zeta Reticuli 2.

Lazar told in an interview that the alien craft fly by amplifying gravity waves. According to Lazar the saucer was moved by a reactor placed on the floor. As fuel, the saucer would have an element with atomic number 115, a ore which cannot be synthesized on the earth. The element is also the source of the gravity-A wave which is amplified for space/time distortion and travel.This kind of propulsion would allow to make the flying saucers invisible and the discs do not need to travel in a linear mode. That meens they can cover huge distance in very little time. In our physics speed is defined as a distance divided by time. These discs operate by warping time itself and space itself. They break Einstein's famous rule that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

For those who believe Bob Lazar, is his evidence supporting his claims is considerable. Lazar comes across as a very credible individual with a solid background in physics, electrical engineering, and propulsion systems. He is able to provide a great amount of detail in describing of his employment, the base, his co-workers, and the alien craft itself that would be difficult to fabricate.

If the claims of Robert Lazar are true, it represents one of the most secret and bizarre, operations of the United States government.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Lazar Interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMVzGfkGaA&feature=related

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Lazar's background has been difficult to verify.

So are his claims about S4 and his involvement with captured alien craft. Sure, Bob tells a good story but then again so does J.K. Rowling.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DB have you ever considered judging a person - do you have any sense of judgement unless it is in black and white for you to analyze and decode and decipher and make conclusions on Laughing

Try using instinct, personal judgement of the claimants character, intelligence, motives etc...


Also if what if says IS true - we know the Government is infinitely powerful, and erasing him would be very easy.

For him to fight the state, would be like a worm trying to fight an eagle.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
DB have you ever considered judging a person - do you have any sense of judgement unless it is in black and white for you to analyze and decode and decipher and make conclusions on Laughing

Try using instinct, personal judgement of the claimants character, intelligence, motives etc...


Also if what if says IS true - we know the Government is infinitely powerful, and erasing him would be very easy.

For him to fight the state, would be like a worm trying to fight an eagle.

Laughing


Cactus, I'm a sceptic which is summed up by this Wiktionary definition: Having, or expressing doubt; questioning.

I tend to base my beliefs on the evidence, reasoning and logic not because there's a video on YouTube or 'a bloke down the pub reckons'.
It doesn't mean I won't believe, it means I want to evaluate the evidence behind a specific claim before I form a conclusion.
I've been studying ghosts, ufo's, bigfoot, lake monsters, psychics etc since I first read Chariots of the Gods in 1974 and I've read hundreds of books on the paranormal since so I've looked at the evidence, been to the edge of Area 51, camped in the woods of Oregon to look for bigfoot (which I do happen to think is a real creature) and spent many cold nights in haunted places.Based on my experience and understanding of cognitive human psychology (how and why we see the world in certain ways) I remain sceptical about UFO's, ghosts and life after death.

Judging people is a different thing to judging the evidence of a given claim.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney, what else do you believe, apart from bigfoot? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
D B Sweeney, what else do you believe, apart from bigfoot? Laughing


I believe that there is intelligent life in the universe. I believe that there are many insect, animal and aquatic species on this planet yet to be discovered and I believe the truth is out there Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DB you mentioned before that you had seen a UFO, would you mind please?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question for you all.,
"What would it matter if it were true?"
"What would it change? and How?"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 1975 or 76. Riding my Chopper in my secondary school yard mid afternoon, sunny day clear blue sky with a few clouds. I looked up (as I often did then because I believed in UFO's) and saw a bright pinprick or dark pinprick in the high sky - no vapour trail.
I watched it for several seconds maybe a minute at most and then a jet...a fast moving plane with a vapour trail starts to head towards it and the object suddenly takes off (or it may have just vanished) at a fantastic speed away from the jet. The jet had no chance of catching it and I watched that jet disappear over the horizon in futile pursuit.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ mrx3010

It wouldn't really matter or change much IMO unless they were like the fundamentalist religious types - intent on world domination.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, I have seen little evidence of that, so...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney, hmmm you believed in UFOs until you seen one, then changed your mind - your a complex individual Laughing Laughing Laughing

also Laughing you didnt see bigfoot and then you believed in it Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
D B Sweeney, hmmm you believed in UFOs until you seen one, then changed your mind - your a complex individual Laughing Laughing Laughing

also Laughing you didnt see bigfoot and then you believed in it Laughing


I believed that UFO's were alien spacecraft, I saw them or saw things in the sky that I believed were alien spacecraft. Then as I read more I realised just how flawed our senses are, how prone to mistakes our perception is and how our memory is not a reliable witness.

I've never seen a Bigfoot but I'm evaluating the evidence and it seems to suggest they may exist.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you seen any other ufos?

i think you have actually managed to convince yourself Crying or Very sad
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